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welcome to shattered reality with their

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hosts Kate Valentine and FERS prepare to

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head of paradigms shifted in the truths

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questioned and now shattered reality

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well Kate here we are back again yeah

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and always looking forward to it yes

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indeed we have really really a wonderful

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guest with us today of miss Angela

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Thompson Smith since childhood Miss

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episodes that led her into remote

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viewing another paranormal past and

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she's written about these experiences

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and her very fascinating books remote

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perceptions Diary of an objective an

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abduction and voices from the cosmos

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these are all really interesting not

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it has quite a lot to do with

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extraterrestrials and exobiology which

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was a subject I was always interested in

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but Ferruccio how did you get interested

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perceptions which is Angela Thompson

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Smith's first book and published by

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experiences I really resonated with it

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that but then when we were thinking

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about who should we have on our program

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paranormal field that people who do

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agreed so you have written three books

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abilities wouldn't have seen that

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imagination because I don't think she

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downplayed so what was it like for you

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out-of-body experiences but when did

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psychic and saw dead people which I had

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never wanted to do but I had friends

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when I was a child who no one else could

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metal aliens and as time went by I

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morning hours and other strange things

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bejesus scared so you mentioned a number

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past lives things that you thought were

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past lives or that maybe it was a case

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your family and lived in the same area

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of England and I was wondering what the

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final analysis what final analysis did

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christos experience that was developed

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nothing to do with Christianity is he

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of body and it's still available online

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experience and so I started doing that

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in a group and then doing some for

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myself and going back in time and one of

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depressed and just unhappy in her

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marriage and a very strange life to go

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same thing with myself that I didn't I

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interesting conversation in a movie I

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some chemical let's say and that

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human brain to do that so we had to

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invent time to separate these

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experiences and that sounded about right

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much but okay I was wondering if you and

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probably basic to you guys but III don't

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think that I know what you're talking

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about particularly go ahead Angela I can

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tell you from it's changed over the

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years as a child I would be put to bed

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now still wide awake and I would lie

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down then you I wasn't asleep and I

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would go up on my part of me would go up

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on the roof and look around and I travel

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grandmother's house see what she was

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different from dreams because I was

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still awake did did your grandmother see

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you when you were there nobody ever saw

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decisions where I wanted to go okay that

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with it and it was the forerunner really

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the the precedents to going into remote

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viewing training because I could decide

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okay my friends are going on vacation

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a look because I did some

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experimentation I want to go and look

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where they are make some notes and when

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they come back I want to share what I

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perceived with them and I didn't get

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everything right but there was enough

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right that I thought there was really

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something going on well would you say in

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terms of like say remote viewing as as

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opposed to out-of-body experiences that

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they are related phenomena but

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out-of-body like Bill bule men do you

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know Bill Dielman I don't know any but I

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know Alton yes he works in a variety of

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different ways for people to go out of

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body but it seems to me like many of the

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times in working with him one enters

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sort of onto a different dimensional

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plane or a different state of matter

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like where you are in your etheric body

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and you're at in a different like a very

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similar but different locale and those

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kind of things can be accessed

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I believe kind of more easily through

286
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lucid dreams like starting in a lucid

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dream and then working it up to where

288
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you are you know very volitional and

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traveling around in spaces that you

290
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recognize almost yes and also through

291
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visualization exercises journeying yes

292
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you can actually go travel and visit

293
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places that you you want to go to and

294
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and more recently I'm jumping ahead here

295
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a little bit but you have become a

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shaman and are involved with shamanism

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isn't is that not the case that's right

298
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I'd always had a leaning towards

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shamanic experience from being a kid

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with my own garden and loving nature

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knowing the names of all the British

302
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plants and their uses and then 2010 I

303
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had the opportunity to go and do some

304
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training with vision seekers with high

305
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growth hormone and oh yes yes yeah

306
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wonderful teachers and so I've been

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working with them

308
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to their workshops and I became ordained

309
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in 2010 it took a lot of paperwork but

310
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that you know you have to justify where

311
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you've really been where you're coming

312
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from what you plan to do with it

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right so that's that's true I become a

314
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shaman well that's beautiful and you

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mentioned your garden in in England I

316
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guess and you knew all the names of the

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plants and so forth were you aware of

318
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the the Divas of the plants like the the

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group spirit of the plants not at that

320
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time I just knew that I was very

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connected to the earth and I would think

322
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you know when I was taking my little

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garden I would put my hands right into

324
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the soil and we would really feel part

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of it and loved my my little flowers and

326
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vegetables and that was more when I was

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growing up up until my teens and then of

328
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course I went traveling and training and

329
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doing other things and and you became a

330
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nurse and then you travel to the US

331
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correct well quite a bit in between okay

332
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I'll just give you a very brief

333
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I went trained as a nurse when I was 18

334
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and became a certified nurse state

335
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registered nurse from there I went on

336
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eventually after doing the you know

337
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working as a nurse to do a Social Work

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training and worked with maladjusted

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children as they called them then in

340
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children's homes and group homes went to

341
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Columbia in my twenties and worked at an

342
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orphanage for two years with kids little

343
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babies that have been abandoned oh and

344
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that was a story in itself then came

345
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back and realized I wanted a little bit

346
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more education so I had left school at

347
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16 and because that was the official

348
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leaving age in England at the time so I

349
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I went to the University of Cardiff and

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at the University of Wales at Cardiff

351
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applied there to do their undergraduate

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in psychology a training

353
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and after three years got my bachelor's

354
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there went to Manchester University got

355
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my masters and again working with

356
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children in laterality how how babies

357
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developed handedness and from there I

358
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came to the States

359
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so bit in between and yes well that's

360
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very impressive bit in between when you

361
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came to the States you came to New

362
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Jersey and which is where we are

363
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broadcasting from just outside New York

364
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City and you but you came to the

365
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Princeton area am I correct

366
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I first of all came to the oranges ah

367
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and I was married and that unfortunately

368
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didn't work out but from there and when

369
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I came over of course I didn't have any

370
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American qualification so I couldn't

371
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work as a nurse or social worker or

372
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anything in my professions so it wasn't

373
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until I'd been in the state's a few

374
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years that I became hired in UMDNJ in

375
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New Brunswick again doing research with

376
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moms and babies which was my thing at

377
00:19:06,850 --> 00:19:04,520
the time and from there after working

378
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there for 3 years the project ended and

379
00:19:12,399 --> 00:19:09,950
I moved then down to Princeton where I

380
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stayed worked for 5 years with the pair

381
00:19:20,380 --> 00:19:16,820
lab well that is a fascinating episode

382
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in your life I think very interesting

383
00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:23,059
time ok it's just throwing one quick

384
00:19:28,419 --> 00:19:25,570
question here since you've worked with

385
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infants and very young children do you

386
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find that a lot of children have these

387
00:19:35,049 --> 00:19:32,809
experiences and then are told that there

388
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don't exist and so stop believing that

389
00:19:42,130 --> 00:19:39,470
they have them yeah yeah because yeah

390
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that was what I was told I don't know

391
00:19:48,250 --> 00:19:43,429
I've never worked with young children

392
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and groups certainly so no when you are

393
00:19:54,220 --> 00:19:51,500
working with these disturbed about it or

394
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whatever these children were you able to

395
00:20:00,580 --> 00:19:57,649
communicate with them less with words

396
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and more not telepathically but on some

397
00:20:05,409 --> 00:20:02,809
sort of that type of telepathically yes

398
00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:05,419
yeah yeah with some of three children

399
00:20:11,019 --> 00:20:08,809
the autistic children and some children

400
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who were aphasics it didn't have

401
00:20:17,649 --> 00:20:13,940
language there was a lot of nonverbal

402
00:20:21,370 --> 00:20:17,659
understanding communication that I

403
00:20:23,769 --> 00:20:21,380
didn't tell anybody else except you know

404
00:20:25,750 --> 00:20:23,779
because it just was not accepted and the

405
00:20:27,850 --> 00:20:25,760
professional feel it okay I'm sorry but

406
00:20:30,220 --> 00:20:27,860
back to your peer experiences because

407
00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:30,230
that is for now that's phenomenal that's

408
00:20:36,100 --> 00:20:33,529
a very respected Institute I don't know

409
00:20:38,799 --> 00:20:36,110
that much about it faroush I'm sorry but

410
00:20:42,460 --> 00:20:38,809
I know you do well you know most of my

411
00:20:45,519 --> 00:20:42,470
familiarity with pair has to do with the

412
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:45,529
random number generators and so why

413
00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:46,850
don't you tell us a little bit about

414
00:20:54,909 --> 00:20:50,480
what you did at pair hmm well I was

415
00:20:58,750 --> 00:20:54,919
hired basically as a technical

416
00:21:02,200 --> 00:20:58,760
assistance and I went in and worked with

417
00:21:05,010 --> 00:21:02,210
Brenda Don and the team at pair and I

418
00:21:09,070 --> 00:21:05,020
was really accepted as part of the team

419
00:21:12,610 --> 00:21:09,080
and the work that was being carried out

420
00:21:15,519 --> 00:21:12,620
was of course the random number

421
00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:15,529
generator work the remote perception

422
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:18,110
work which was the civilian equivalent

423
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:20,690
to what was going on in the Stargate

424
00:21:29,380 --> 00:21:25,850
remote viewing unit military we also did

425
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:29,390
a little bit of other psychic work from

426
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:31,039
time to time whenever there was an

427
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:33,970
interest but those were the two main

428
00:21:40,139 --> 00:21:36,890
thrusts of the lab or the random number

429
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:40,149
generator work and the remote perception

430
00:21:46,299 --> 00:21:44,570
okay just how successful is remote

431
00:21:50,139 --> 00:21:46,309
viewing because I don't know and

432
00:21:52,570 --> 00:21:50,149
honestly as an outsider you'd say well I

433
00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:52,580
don't know maybe it's true maybe it's

434
00:21:58,029 --> 00:21:55,370
not but you do have fairly good success

435
00:22:01,299 --> 00:21:58,039
rates with this right well I can speak

436
00:22:03,340 --> 00:22:01,309
to two perspectives one is the my

437
00:22:06,580 --> 00:22:03,350
personal perspective which is I've

438
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:06,590
interested in multiple labs and I'm

439
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:13,760
about the 78% level well yeah I suppose

440
00:22:17,950 --> 00:22:14,720
over the years

441
00:22:20,380 --> 00:22:17,960
got pretty good at it much like a singer

442
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:20,390
you know has a natural ability to become

443
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:25,250
trained and practice right and I know

444
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:28,610
you teach this as well so for myself

445
00:22:34,330 --> 00:22:32,240
let's say as an example who I don't

446
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:34,340
believe has had any abilities along

447
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:42,100
none that come to the fore but let's say

448
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:44,330
I didn't but was interested in

449
00:22:48,790 --> 00:22:45,890
developing him do you believe most

450
00:22:52,300 --> 00:22:48,800
people would have the ability given the

451
00:22:54,700 --> 00:22:52,310
proper training for example you just

452
00:22:56,770 --> 00:22:54,710
spent you in singer I mean they could

453
00:22:59,860 --> 00:22:56,780
train me in singing until they turn blue

454
00:23:02,890 --> 00:22:59,870
and I would never ever sing well yeah

455
00:23:05,290 --> 00:23:02,900
but so that would not be my ability but

456
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:05,300
you feel that most people would have the

457
00:23:09,790 --> 00:23:07,970
ability to remote for you to some extent

458
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:09,800
like I mean I certainly could sing a

459
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:11,410
little bit not professionally but

460
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:14,570
certainly just some extent but uh but

461
00:23:19,270 --> 00:23:17,330
you feel most people can remote you you

462
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:19,280
have because remote viewing occurs the

463
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:22,010
ability occurs on a continuum

464
00:23:26,910 --> 00:23:24,650
most people are intuitive and or remote

465
00:23:30,610 --> 00:23:26,920
viewing training does is it gets you

466
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:30,620
gives you more access to that intuitive

467
00:23:34,990 --> 00:23:32,530
level so there are various methods

468
00:23:38,170 --> 00:23:35,000
various catch good there various

469
00:23:39,910 --> 00:23:38,180
protocols that enable you to do that and

470
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:39,920
of course as you know there's some

471
00:23:46,210 --> 00:23:43,450
people who are psychically tone-deaf and

472
00:23:49,090 --> 00:23:46,220
they can they can achieve a little bit

473
00:23:55,300 --> 00:23:49,100
and some people who can who are very

474
00:23:58,300 --> 00:23:55,310
good in between and your your school

475
00:24:01,930 --> 00:23:58,310
which is in the Las Vegas area is mind

476
00:24:04,450 --> 00:24:01,940
wise consulting yes yes I'm in a little

477
00:24:06,970 --> 00:24:04,460
town called Ron Boulder City just

478
00:24:10,270 --> 00:24:06,980
outside Las Vegas on the way to Hoover

479
00:24:12,550 --> 00:24:10,280
Dam excellent excellent just we want to

480
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:12,560
give you that plug you may hear somebody

481
00:24:20,350 --> 00:24:16,370
and we want them to know about all of

482
00:24:25,870 --> 00:24:20,360
your various you know businesses and

483
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:25,880
books going on so did you meet Ingo

484
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:27,650
Swann in that period

485
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:31,530
not during the time I was at pair it

486
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:34,410
wasn't until I left pair up to five

487
00:24:41,660 --> 00:24:38,490
years my part of the contracted finish

488
00:24:45,410 --> 00:24:41,670
so I moved out to Las Vegas and I worked

489
00:24:49,370 --> 00:24:45,420
for Robert Bigelow oh yeah and he sent

490
00:24:53,030 --> 00:24:49,380
me off to New York at one point to work

491
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:53,040
with Budd Hopkins I and Bert was in

492
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:54,810
poorhouse at the time and needed some

493
00:25:00,350 --> 00:24:57,600
assistance so I was loaned out too bad

494
00:25:02,690 --> 00:25:00,360
and during the time I was in Manhattan

495
00:25:05,630 --> 00:25:02,700
I contacted Ingo Swann I was writing

496
00:25:07,550 --> 00:25:05,640
remote perceptions at the time and said

497
00:25:10,940 --> 00:25:07,560
after myth he would write the foreword

498
00:25:12,890 --> 00:25:10,950
for me so we met in a diner and spent a

499
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:12,900
couple of hours talking and he read the

500
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:15,840
manuscript and he agreed you know he

501
00:25:21,740 --> 00:25:18,810
would write the foreword which I was so

502
00:25:26,180 --> 00:25:21,750
honored yes do that that's wonderful I

503
00:25:28,820 --> 00:25:26,190
mean I've lived in New York for you know

504
00:25:30,380 --> 00:25:28,830
most of my life at least in the

505
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:30,390
metropolitan area and in the East

506
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:30,810
Village

507
00:25:37,460 --> 00:25:34,530
and I knew lots of people who knew Ingo

508
00:25:42,590 --> 00:25:37,470
and I never got to meet him and it's one

509
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:42,600
of the great regrets that I you know one

510
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:44,250
of the people that I regret I've never

511
00:25:50,210 --> 00:25:48,330
met and so I've made it my my effort to

512
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:50,220
meet other people that I would like to

513
00:25:55,730 --> 00:25:53,130
meet I've put myself out to do so

514
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:55,740
because he's one of the people that was

515
00:26:01,100 --> 00:25:58,050
available pretty much to me and I never

516
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:01,110
met him so that's it was a great was a

517
00:26:05,660 --> 00:26:02,970
great disappointment but it has set me

518
00:26:10,820 --> 00:26:05,670
on a different course part of the reason

519
00:26:14,210 --> 00:26:10,830
that I was set on a different course if

520
00:26:16,550 --> 00:26:14,220
he liked you yes and whenever I went to

521
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:16,560
Manhattan I'd call up and say hey can I

522
00:26:21,740 --> 00:26:18,330
come over and visit you go yeah sure

523
00:26:25,730 --> 00:26:21,750
come on you know and he shared a lot

524
00:26:29,690 --> 00:26:25,740
with me a lot of his his work so I feel

525
00:26:35,030 --> 00:26:29,700
very honored was he also an experiencer

526
00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:35,040
since childhood oh yeah hmm yeah and he

527
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:37,260
developed it more or less on his own too

528
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:39,810
since oh I know

529
00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:43,530
yeah I think until the 70s late 70s

530
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:47,910
early ages when 70 mid-70s yes I think

531
00:26:54,980 --> 00:26:50,610
yeah started working at Stanford

532
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:54,990
Research Institute so forth yeah before

533
00:26:59,690 --> 00:26:57,600
that he was at the American Society for

534
00:27:02,620 --> 00:26:59,700
psychical risk all right in Manhattan

535
00:27:05,390 --> 00:27:02,630
and he was there for a couple of years

536
00:27:08,270 --> 00:27:05,400
actually taking part in research and

537
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:08,280
then actually giving them some pointers

538
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:12,570
as to to develop their obe research and

539
00:27:17,090 --> 00:27:14,850
he had that one really odd experience

540
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:17,100
with the moon or something Oh

541
00:27:23,410 --> 00:27:20,210
penetration yes what was that all about

542
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:23,420
okay I'm the UFO freak so I need to know

543
00:27:36,500 --> 00:27:32,640
I did mention it a couple of times in

544
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:36,510
talks but he was contacting the

545
00:27:41,780 --> 00:27:38,850
contacted and higher than taken very

546
00:27:45,410 --> 00:27:41,790
clandestinely to a location an unknown

547
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:45,420
location where he was given a an unknown

548
00:27:51,380 --> 00:27:48,810
target just a coordinate which is just

549
00:27:56,030 --> 00:27:51,390
like ago you know an address of a

550
00:27:59,270 --> 00:27:56,040
location but by numeric alphanumeric and

551
00:28:02,690 --> 00:27:59,280
he started remote viewing the moon's

552
00:28:07,070 --> 00:28:02,700
back of the moon and the back of the

553
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:07,080
Moon yeah probably was and then as he

554
00:28:11,990 --> 00:28:09,360
was remote feeling he said something

555
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:12,000
like well I am sorry I I don't think

556
00:28:15,470 --> 00:28:12,570
I've got it

557
00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:15,480
you know I we better stop this and the

558
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:17,760
person that was there with in monitoring

559
00:28:26,660 --> 00:28:23,130
him said no no go ahead and so he gave

560
00:28:28,370 --> 00:28:26,670
them a lot of information and I'm not

561
00:28:31,070 --> 00:28:28,380
going to spoil it for readers that want

562
00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:31,080
to cuz tenna trations is now available

563
00:28:37,460 --> 00:28:35,310
on Kindle yes yes which is fantastic yes

564
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:37,470
it certainly is I've read it more than

565
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:40,170
once and I found it to be a fascinating

566
00:28:52,330 --> 00:28:48,820
you know well you know again thinking

567
00:28:55,149 --> 00:28:52,340
the UFO nut on this when I was reading

568
00:28:57,940 --> 00:28:55,159
about the diary of abduction and voices

569
00:29:00,399 --> 00:28:57,950
from the cosmos you're absolutely in

570
00:29:04,930 --> 00:29:00,409
contact with races other than human race

571
00:29:09,399 --> 00:29:04,940
and that is something I would really

572
00:29:12,789 --> 00:29:09,409
love to do myself but on one hand you do

573
00:29:14,739 --> 00:29:12,799
have that sort of inborn xenophobia I

574
00:29:16,810 --> 00:29:14,749
guess you know like you think oops I'll

575
00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:16,820
get abducted if I speak to these beings

576
00:29:23,739 --> 00:29:19,129
and so maybe I better just shut up and

577
00:29:25,629 --> 00:29:23,749
but you have no fear of that no I did

578
00:29:28,479 --> 00:29:25,639
have a you know when I first started

579
00:29:31,330 --> 00:29:28,489
looking into all this but it kind of

580
00:29:34,210 --> 00:29:31,340
started from when I remember when I was

581
00:29:36,580 --> 00:29:34,220
in 16 and my brother and I we were

582
00:29:39,070 --> 00:29:36,590
living down in Dorset by that time south

583
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:39,080
of England and something landed in the

584
00:29:45,279 --> 00:29:41,570
meadow at the back of our house lit up

585
00:29:47,919 --> 00:29:45,289
our rooms with this intense light I went

586
00:29:50,859 --> 00:29:47,929
under the bedclothes and my brother who

587
00:29:52,690 --> 00:29:50,869
was very brave looked at the window and

588
00:29:58,749 --> 00:29:52,700
said oh this you are so landed in the

589
00:30:00,759 --> 00:29:58,759
ethereal and from then on I had a

590
00:30:03,789 --> 00:30:00,769
variety of experiences which are now

591
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:03,799
classified as the you know out-of-body

592
00:30:09,570 --> 00:30:05,809
experiences which could really be

593
00:30:13,539 --> 00:30:09,580
classified as taking return yes really

594
00:30:17,049 --> 00:30:13,549
indeed no can we ask a question about

595
00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:17,059
those catch-and-release experiences

596
00:30:23,950 --> 00:30:20,960
because I have had some you know alien

597
00:30:28,169 --> 00:30:23,960
experiences myself and where did you

598
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:28,179
find that you had any paralysis at the

599
00:30:35,019 --> 00:30:32,450
start of an experience no because of

600
00:30:38,019 --> 00:30:35,029
mine my expenses were just pushed into

601
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:38,029
the back of my mind and didn't remember

602
00:30:43,180 --> 00:30:41,330
a huge amount about them until actually

603
00:30:45,159 --> 00:30:43,190
I was a parramatta woman who'd had

604
00:30:48,669 --> 00:30:45,169
similar experiences and that woke up

605
00:30:52,239 --> 00:30:48,679
this dear what have I been experiencing

606
00:30:53,619 --> 00:30:52,249
all these years so that was at that

607
00:30:55,690 --> 00:30:53,629
point where I started paying some

608
00:30:56,810 --> 00:30:55,700
serious attention to it but I really

609
00:31:03,259 --> 00:30:56,820
didn't have that

610
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:03,269
versus it varied from one point when

611
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:05,610
actually when I was at Princeton and in

612
00:31:11,090 --> 00:31:08,850
the night I woke up didn't open my eyes

613
00:31:15,220 --> 00:31:11,100
I realized there were two beings by my

614
00:31:17,629 --> 00:31:15,230
bed and I put out my hand tentatively

615
00:31:20,779 --> 00:31:17,639
around the waist of one and going oh

616
00:31:22,249 --> 00:31:20,789
interesting and they were making a noise

617
00:31:25,610 --> 00:31:22,259
or one of them was making a noise I

618
00:31:30,350 --> 00:31:25,620
could I called it a Twitter piping I

619
00:31:32,899 --> 00:31:30,360
think it was panicking oh they were I

620
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:32,909
was because I was actually touching them

621
00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:36,450
so I brought my arm back and said hey

622
00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:40,740
you know I mean to upset you or harm you

623
00:31:45,860 --> 00:31:43,679
and that was it I didn't remember

624
00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:45,870
anymore till the morning but I woke up

625
00:31:55,039 --> 00:31:52,080
going wow you are braver than I am you

626
00:31:57,919 --> 00:31:55,049
know in your voices from the cosmos you

627
00:32:01,220 --> 00:31:57,929
identify a number of different races of

628
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:01,230
aliens that are have visited the earth

629
00:32:10,220 --> 00:32:06,289
or interested in the earth and in my

630
00:32:14,419 --> 00:32:10,230
late teens well into my 20s I had a

631
00:32:19,220 --> 00:32:14,429
number of experiences with a being that

632
00:32:22,220 --> 00:32:19,230
would be classified as a the tall Nordic

633
00:32:25,129 --> 00:32:22,230
blond but at the time I didn't know it

634
00:32:28,460 --> 00:32:25,139
and one day I was reading a magazine

635
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:28,470
which I had purchased in Manhattan at

636
00:32:32,269 --> 00:32:30,809
the the virgin book store which is no

637
00:32:35,779 --> 00:32:32,279
longer there were run by the Virgin

638
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:35,789
Airlines fellow and I purchased a

639
00:32:40,639 --> 00:32:38,850
magazine and psychic phenomena type of

640
00:32:42,919 --> 00:32:40,649
magazine and in the back there were

641
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:42,929
listing I believe of five different

642
00:32:47,450 --> 00:32:45,450
alien types and I was kind of you know

643
00:32:50,779 --> 00:32:47,460
just kind of generally interested and I

644
00:32:54,139 --> 00:32:50,789
must have been about you know in my late

645
00:32:57,139 --> 00:32:54,149
20s at the time and all of a sudden my

646
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:57,149
eyes grew wide because they were talking

647
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:00,720
about this Nordic alien type Nordic

648
00:33:07,730 --> 00:33:03,840
blonde alien large you know basically

649
00:33:09,470 --> 00:33:07,740
six and a half seven and a half feet you

650
00:33:11,659 --> 00:33:09,480
know being

651
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:11,669
and all of a sudden I realized that

652
00:33:16,820 --> 00:33:14,490
other people had seen what I had seen

653
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:16,830
which I was totally unaware of at the

654
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:20,250
time I was you know I thought about UFOs

655
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:24,450
as a as a teenager and so forth but had

656
00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:26,730
no concept that anybody had seen the

657
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:29,760
type of alien that I had seen I know the

658
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:32,250
question I want to ask you is that the

659
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:35,610
second type of a being that I saw that I

660
00:33:41,780 --> 00:33:38,490
believe was an alien whether the small

661
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:41,790
metal beings I saw when I was a little

662
00:33:48,020 --> 00:33:44,450
child who used to come and play with me

663
00:33:49,940 --> 00:33:48,030
are they in your book at all would you

664
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:49,950
classify them as a particular type of

665
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:52,770
you had any contact they're not greys

666
00:33:59,659 --> 00:33:55,770
they're like metal they're made of metal

667
00:34:02,260 --> 00:33:59,669
almost I haven't had experience of them

668
00:34:06,620 --> 00:34:02,270
and I didn't contact them during the

669
00:34:09,530 --> 00:34:06,630
interviews that we did ok so I I have

670
00:34:12,770 --> 00:34:09,540
heard of them before from others but I

671
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:12,780
have not counted it no experience I

672
00:34:18,169 --> 00:34:15,330
wonder that was a gentleman on a

673
00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:18,179
different show at one point who spoke

674
00:34:24,109 --> 00:34:20,159
about his childhood in having seen

675
00:34:27,109 --> 00:34:24,119
similar beings at that time when he was

676
00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:27,119
a child and I wonder if they might be

677
00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:30,960
sort of nannies like robot nan he's

678
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:36,409
better sent by by some of these other

679
00:34:41,930 --> 00:34:37,970
interdimensional or extraterrestrial

680
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:41,940
beings to be with earth children at

681
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:45,330
times possibly and of course they in

682
00:34:51,740 --> 00:34:48,810
Russia that time piranhas they had at

683
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:51,750
all metallic being seen in one of the

684
00:34:59,380 --> 00:34:56,480
parks so there have been other metallic

685
00:35:04,090 --> 00:34:59,390
Heights you know seen in various times

686
00:35:07,550 --> 00:35:04,100
yeah Kate what about the down in down in

687
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:07,560
in it was it West Virginia you had a

688
00:35:14,270 --> 00:35:11,490
fellow on a number of times with the the

689
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:14,280
the monster of Braxton County

690
00:35:20,810 --> 00:35:16,410
Braxton quite woods monster flatwoods

691
00:35:23,230 --> 00:35:20,820
monster yes which was a big flap of UFO

692
00:35:26,740 --> 00:35:23,240
sightings west of

693
00:35:28,690 --> 00:35:26,750
of the nation's capital Frank Hoshino

694
00:35:33,070 --> 00:35:28,700
because you know yeah Frank Ficino

695
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:33,080
that they were metal also Wow well they

696
00:35:38,590 --> 00:35:35,570
were sort of partially metal they felt

697
00:35:40,330 --> 00:35:38,600
felt that there was a crash and that

698
00:35:43,660 --> 00:35:40,340
that was an escape pod

699
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:43,670
and so the pod was what was seen as

700
00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:46,010
metallic where it almost sounds like

701
00:35:52,060 --> 00:35:49,730
they was like a see-through bubble on

702
00:35:53,980 --> 00:35:52,070
the top if you will yeah and that's

703
00:35:57,070 --> 00:35:53,990
where the being was coming out but

704
00:36:00,609 --> 00:35:57,080
certainly it really frightened people

705
00:36:02,620 --> 00:36:00,619
who ran into it and sure and Frank has

706
00:36:04,810 --> 00:36:02,630
just done a tremendous amount of

707
00:36:09,070 --> 00:36:04,820
research on that and in his book the

708
00:36:14,490 --> 00:36:09,080
monster owns excuse me the flatwoods

709
00:36:19,140 --> 00:36:14,500
monster or the rats again Braxton County

710
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:19,150
you know what he did was he collected a

711
00:36:24,910 --> 00:36:22,730
gazillion reports of saucer sightings at

712
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:24,920
the time and traced them all back to a

713
00:36:30,940 --> 00:36:27,890
huge mothership over the Atlantic that

714
00:36:34,330 --> 00:36:30,950
then sent out these fleets of ships and

715
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:34,340
it had to do in 1952 with the sightings

716
00:36:41,980 --> 00:36:39,410
over DC and the US Air Force of just

717
00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:41,990
developed E or the US Navy I believe I

718
00:36:46,270 --> 00:36:43,910
just developed a fighter jet that could

719
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:46,280
actually shoot them down which is

720
00:36:50,530 --> 00:36:48,290
another title of his book shoot them

721
00:36:55,720 --> 00:36:50,540
down but as ferocious said we're talking

722
00:36:58,060 --> 00:36:55,730
to you so what are your feeling of this

723
00:36:59,950 --> 00:36:58,070
about aliens in general it just

724
00:37:03,420 --> 00:36:59,960
are they here out of curiosity out of

725
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:03,430
what we might do if as if we developed

726
00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:06,050
abilities to travel to other worlds and

727
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:09,440
in a acceptable period of time we would

728
00:37:14,830 --> 00:37:12,160
go more out of curiosity than anything

729
00:37:17,620 --> 00:37:14,840
is that about their reason for

730
00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:17,630
contacting you and other humans or do

731
00:37:25,180 --> 00:37:22,630
they have born nefarious schemes what I

732
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:25,190
got from the interviews which was me

733
00:37:33,130 --> 00:37:28,730
contacting them contacting me know can I

734
00:37:36,130 --> 00:37:33,140
did it as a project for a client was

735
00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:36,140
that the consensus was they they had

736
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:36,990
been here long

737
00:37:42,140 --> 00:37:39,119
for us and they were going to be here

738
00:37:45,590 --> 00:37:42,150
long after us and they'd always visited

739
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:45,600
the earth and we consider themselves as

740
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:48,930
co inhabiters of the earth huh ultra

741
00:37:56,780 --> 00:37:53,119
terrestrials if you will and some are

742
00:37:59,540 --> 00:37:56,790
visit periodically and there are races

743
00:38:04,160 --> 00:37:59,550
that came through in the interviews that

744
00:38:06,260 --> 00:38:04,170
are actually earth resident and but not

745
00:38:09,830 --> 00:38:06,270
very many of them you know better but

746
00:38:11,690 --> 00:38:09,840
the majority are visiting traveling

747
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:11,700
through getting resources they

748
00:38:19,850 --> 00:38:13,890
considered the earth is a shared

749
00:38:22,430 --> 00:38:19,860
resource but not their home only to some

750
00:38:26,720 --> 00:38:22,440
of the ones who who decided to stay here

751
00:38:30,740 --> 00:38:26,730
Oh have you read Charles Hall's books

752
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:30,750
about the tall whites out at Indian

753
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:34,110
Springs no I was unaware of it now

754
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:37,170
you're saying Charles Hall H ALL mantra

755
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:43,440
hold of me oh okay because we also have

756
00:38:51,650 --> 00:38:47,210
Charles halt who was a big player at

757
00:38:55,790 --> 00:38:51,660
Bentwaters event in in Great Britain yes

758
00:38:57,470 --> 00:38:55,800
no no he'd written millennial I forget

759
00:38:59,900 --> 00:38:57,480
the actual name Tiger he wrote five

760
00:39:01,910 --> 00:38:59,910
books about how when he was an airman he

761
00:39:05,660 --> 00:39:01,920
was stationed out it Indian Springs

762
00:39:08,270 --> 00:39:05,670
which is now creature forces and his

763
00:39:11,740 --> 00:39:08,280
encounters there with groups of tall

764
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:11,750
whites were kind of resident out there

765
00:39:18,109 --> 00:39:14,880
and and this this comes to a question I

766
00:39:21,140 --> 00:39:18,119
was about to ask you if you what your

767
00:39:27,700 --> 00:39:21,150
encounters have been with any physical

768
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:27,710
aliens or just basically like a few

769
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:36,980
okay they're doing a little

770
00:39:45,530 --> 00:39:42,000
communication of their own but is there

771
00:39:47,540 --> 00:39:45,540
like all of you will an or a planet

772
00:39:49,630 --> 00:39:47,550
somewhere like where all these races

773
00:39:52,569 --> 00:39:49,640
came from is there a starting point

774
00:39:55,509 --> 00:39:52,579
somewhere way back what do you think

775
00:39:58,329 --> 00:39:55,519
about the compact just the Milky Way

776
00:40:01,539 --> 00:39:58,339
doesn't it begin I mean its immense I

777
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:01,549
hope and then that Milky Way has to be

778
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:04,160
included in something else mm-hmm and

779
00:40:06,250 --> 00:40:05,599
that has to be included in something

780
00:40:09,609 --> 00:40:06,260
else

781
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:09,619
mm-hmm you know it boggles the mind you

782
00:40:14,140 --> 00:40:12,650
know so you know we were kind of

783
00:40:16,779 --> 00:40:14,150
arrogant to think we're the only

784
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:16,789
intelligence oh yes there's a lot of

785
00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:19,490
arrogance yeah one of the grades had

786
00:40:25,299 --> 00:40:22,640
said there are as many races out there

787
00:40:27,309 --> 00:40:25,309
are stars in the sky what just

788
00:40:30,339 --> 00:40:27,319
statistically that has that will prove

789
00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:30,349
to be true eventually but but is there

790
00:40:40,109 --> 00:40:32,529
one race that claims that they were the

791
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:40,119
progenitors of them all the Anunnaki

792
00:40:48,029 --> 00:40:45,170
claimed some some credit for that but

793
00:40:52,319 --> 00:40:48,039
not in the way that was written about

794
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:52,329
you know in some of the literature so

795
00:41:00,849 --> 00:40:55,970
you know they it's become over the years

796
00:41:03,249 --> 00:41:00,859
you know matters of interpretation and

797
00:41:06,069 --> 00:41:03,259
understanding and what they said was

798
00:41:09,460 --> 00:41:06,079
they the Anunnaki said well yes we know

799
00:41:12,220 --> 00:41:09,470
that humans were our children there's

800
00:41:14,140 --> 00:41:12,230
all these stories by such in that we

801
00:41:16,990 --> 00:41:14,150
were the slaves the original slaves of

802
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:17,000
the Anunnaki you know going down mining

803
00:41:22,990 --> 00:41:20,210
gold for them in Africa oh yeah yeah but

804
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:23,000
the Anunnaki that I contacted and

805
00:41:27,670 --> 00:41:25,490
interviewed said now that was just a

806
00:41:33,269 --> 00:41:27,680
matter of misunderstanding that the

807
00:41:37,569 --> 00:41:35,890
because you feel like every cell I don't

808
00:41:39,279 --> 00:41:37,579
know you know like as a human you think

809
00:41:41,170 --> 00:41:39,289
that everything has a beginning you

810
00:41:42,910 --> 00:41:41,180
think of the big bang and all but that

811
00:41:46,140 --> 00:41:42,920
that really hasn't been proven either

812
00:41:52,420 --> 00:41:46,150
it's just been it's been speculated

813
00:41:54,970 --> 00:41:52,430
that's the way it is I'm sorry the the

814
00:42:01,349 --> 00:41:54,980
part that you know really struck home

815
00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:01,359
with me is the arrogance of humanity

816
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:04,480
I sort of believe that it's because of

817
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:06,970
the arrogance of many human beings

818
00:42:12,420 --> 00:42:09,970
thinking that they are you know one step

819
00:42:14,849 --> 00:42:12,430
away from God they were created in God's

820
00:42:17,069 --> 00:42:14,859
likeness and and all of that stuff

821
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:17,079
meaning that there's you know there's

822
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:18,910
there's the Supreme Being there might be

823
00:42:22,170 --> 00:42:21,249
a few angels floating around and then

824
00:42:25,799 --> 00:42:22,180
there's us

825
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:25,809
you know there are us the angry Apes

826
00:42:31,410 --> 00:42:29,529
with guns the supreme beings and I think

827
00:42:36,259 --> 00:42:31,420
it's incredibly arrogant and I also

828
00:42:42,930 --> 00:42:39,829
humanity by and large has not accepted

829
00:42:45,390 --> 00:42:42,940
the extra-terrestrial or the ultra

830
00:42:49,529 --> 00:42:45,400
terrestrial presence what would you say

831
00:42:51,779 --> 00:42:49,539
about that I think you're correct we are

832
00:42:56,089 --> 00:42:51,789
I mean even though we are an arrogant

833
00:42:59,009 --> 00:42:56,099
aggressive species we are humans are

834
00:43:01,799 --> 00:42:59,019
wonderfully amazing we as a species are

835
00:43:05,339 --> 00:43:01,809
wonderfully amazing and that was

836
00:43:07,140 --> 00:43:05,349
acknowledged by the alien races that I

837
00:43:09,809 --> 00:43:07,150
interviewed except that they kept saying

838
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:09,819
humans are limited humans are limited

839
00:43:14,579 --> 00:43:12,160
not in the respect that we never have

840
00:43:19,410 --> 00:43:14,589
any potential to develop but we haven't

841
00:43:23,279 --> 00:43:19,420
developed that potential yet well it's

842
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:23,289
that sort of that makes sense because

843
00:43:28,829 --> 00:43:26,650
you know you have tribes that have not

844
00:43:31,170 --> 00:43:28,839
been exposed to today's civilizations

845
00:43:33,569 --> 00:43:31,180
technology and so on and their children

846
00:43:37,739 --> 00:43:33,579
brought here rapidly adjust to it and

847
00:43:40,259 --> 00:43:37,749
come along and so I think one of the

848
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:40,269
fears that it seems from what I've heard

849
00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:42,249
from various reports from people

850
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:44,470
contacts with aliens is they're afraid

851
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:47,049
to give us too much at one time that we

852
00:43:53,190 --> 00:43:49,930
would not adjust to it we could but it

853
00:43:56,509 --> 00:43:53,200
would be too much too soon so I don't

854
00:43:59,789 --> 00:43:56,519
know yeah there's a great idea that

855
00:44:02,849 --> 00:43:59,799
society is being acclimated to the

856
00:44:07,380 --> 00:44:02,859
concept of an alien presence you know

857
00:44:11,370 --> 00:44:07,390
with the movies and books and leaks that

858
00:44:15,150 --> 00:44:11,380
come out Android and I think currently

859
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:15,160
in our our you know 2015

860
00:44:20,070 --> 00:44:18,310
I think that it would be okay if the

861
00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:20,080
truth came out

862
00:44:24,090 --> 00:44:22,000
the powers-that-be would probably have

863
00:44:27,450 --> 00:44:24,100
some egg on their face for not having

864
00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:27,460
dealt with it or not admitted it but I'm

865
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:29,200
sure there would be some spin to cover

866
00:44:35,570 --> 00:44:30,010
that up

867
00:44:43,010 --> 00:44:39,510
you are referencing perhaps Colonel

868
00:44:46,830 --> 00:44:43,020
Alexander and his you know sort of

869
00:44:49,220 --> 00:44:46,840
admissions of the in his book about the

870
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:49,230
different ways that the government has

871
00:44:54,990 --> 00:44:52,240
acknowledged the the alien presence and

872
00:44:58,260 --> 00:44:55,000
maybe people like I guess it was Bob M

873
00:45:01,880 --> 00:44:58,270
and Eggert down in Southern California

874
00:45:05,850 --> 00:45:01,890
who was contacted by the government to

875
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:05,860
make a film about the possible alien

876
00:45:09,870 --> 00:45:07,570
presence or something like that and then

877
00:45:11,790 --> 00:45:09,880
it was shown by Disney once and never

878
00:45:15,570 --> 00:45:11,800
shown again is that the kind of thing

879
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:15,580
that you're referencing I think so I've

880
00:45:22,650 --> 00:45:19,330
been on the fringes of the the USO field

881
00:45:26,250 --> 00:45:22,660
for many years not been a known name in

882
00:45:29,070 --> 00:45:26,260
it and so been privy to a lot of

883
00:45:33,140 --> 00:45:29,080
information that you know I've kept my

884
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:33,150
ear to the ground and there's an ongoing

885
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:37,090
thought currently is that disclosure has

886
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:39,970
already been made yeah it's just a

887
00:45:46,050 --> 00:45:42,850
matter now of you know acknowledging it

888
00:45:49,260 --> 00:45:46,060
and making it happen

889
00:45:54,060 --> 00:45:49,270
yeah that seems to be the current

890
00:45:58,380 --> 00:45:54,070
thought yeah I've written on my blog a

891
00:46:01,860 --> 00:45:58,390
little bit in that direction about how

892
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:01,870
it was sort of seeing fossils that came

893
00:46:11,790 --> 00:46:06,730
from Mars and investigating the the

894
00:46:14,580 --> 00:46:11,800
comets for possible life and the

895
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:14,590
panspermia theory of Chandra

896
00:46:19,770 --> 00:46:17,290
Wickramasinghe and and so forth being

897
00:46:22,340 --> 00:46:19,780
like the beginnings of disclosure by

898
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:22,350
saying oh look there's little germs

899
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:25,090
living on the far side of the Moon or

900
00:46:27,089 --> 00:46:26,290
something of that nature

901
00:46:29,210 --> 00:46:27,099
so

902
00:46:32,670 --> 00:46:29,220
you know break it to them gently

903
00:46:35,789 --> 00:46:32,680
approach right and new information to

904
00:46:39,479 --> 00:46:35,799
leaks all the time like I recently read

905
00:46:41,940 --> 00:46:39,489
from someone else that NASA has now just

906
00:46:46,829 --> 00:46:41,950
put out some photos that show actually

907
00:46:50,940 --> 00:46:46,839
blue pools blue areas that might contain

908
00:46:53,069 --> 00:46:50,950
water if I've always thought if the Miss

909
00:46:57,690 --> 00:46:53,079
Mars is missing

910
00:46:59,039 --> 00:46:57,700
Mars not Moon and Mars is rusty red then

911
00:47:01,410 --> 00:46:59,049
at one time there must have been water

912
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:01,420
they must have been oxygen right because

913
00:47:07,349 --> 00:47:03,970
the iron in the rocks rusts out with

914
00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:07,359
water and oxygen is there still water

915
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:11,049
and oxygen there and so now there been

916
00:47:18,210 --> 00:47:14,970
these these new leaks now of some actual

917
00:47:21,630 --> 00:47:18,220
possibilities of water being on Mars and

918
00:47:24,029 --> 00:47:21,640
and certainly below the surface it is an

919
00:47:26,069 --> 00:47:24,039
indication that there's water below the

920
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:26,079
surface what do you think of a Buzz

921
00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:28,720
Aldrin trying to send some people to

922
00:47:37,370 --> 00:47:32,710
Mars for a one-way trip yeah and this I

923
00:47:40,529 --> 00:47:37,380
think is being orchestrated partly by

924
00:47:43,019 --> 00:47:40,539
Robert Bigelow here in North Las Vegas

925
00:47:47,279 --> 00:47:43,029
he has a huge complex out there in North

926
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:47,289
Las Vegas building inflatable pods to go

927
00:47:51,359 --> 00:47:49,210
up into space and actually he has

928
00:47:54,180 --> 00:47:51,369
launched them already and there was a

929
00:47:55,739 --> 00:47:54,190
plan to attach one to the International

930
00:47:59,370 --> 00:47:55,749
Space Station I don't know if that's

931
00:48:01,349 --> 00:47:59,380
occurred yet and he wants to put these

932
00:48:05,430 --> 00:48:01,359
in rotation around the moon and around

933
00:48:07,799 --> 00:48:05,440
the earth as sort of floating hotels Wow

934
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:07,809
and I heard recently on the grapevine

935
00:48:14,759 --> 00:48:12,249
that he had hired astronauts in Las

936
00:48:17,609 --> 00:48:14,769
Vegas that were going to be trained

937
00:48:19,769 --> 00:48:17,619
you know perhaps for a Mars mission Wow

938
00:48:23,009 --> 00:48:19,779
that is fascinating have you been out to

939
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:23,019
the ranch mm-hmm which records the

940
00:48:28,049 --> 00:48:25,690
skinwalker ranch no no I have not she

941
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:28,059
been there physically our group did some

942
00:48:35,249 --> 00:48:31,089
remote viewing for George Knapp and that

943
00:48:36,959 --> 00:48:35,259
was included in their book the search

944
00:48:38,430 --> 00:48:36,969
for the skinwalker is something that

945
00:48:39,370 --> 00:48:38,440
it's something of that nature

946
00:48:43,269 --> 00:48:39,380
what were you

947
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:43,279
because that's a freaky place what we

948
00:48:48,339 --> 00:48:45,170
found was that there was a lot there was

949
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:48,349
military activity there was a lot of

950
00:48:54,490 --> 00:48:52,970
stuff underground there was a normal is

951
00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:54,500
lights in the sky their Christmas was

952
00:48:58,779 --> 00:48:56,569
from remote viewers who were given

953
00:49:00,700 --> 00:48:58,789
what's called blind targets they didn't

954
00:49:04,779 --> 00:49:00,710
know what they were viewing they would

955
00:49:07,420 --> 00:49:04,789
just receive an alphanumeric code word

956
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:07,430
code number for the what they were

957
00:49:11,559 --> 00:49:09,650
viewing so there was and that

958
00:49:14,859 --> 00:49:11,569
information is actually in the search

959
00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:14,869
for the skinwalker it's in the chapter

960
00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:16,910
coordinate the military you know I've

961
00:49:21,970 --> 00:49:20,000
read it and I I must have blanked on

962
00:49:24,009 --> 00:49:21,980
that part as you can hear on the bonnet

963
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:24,019
yeah drama Chronicles viewing is in

964
00:49:31,150 --> 00:49:28,910
there too so I'm mr. piccolo have you

965
00:49:32,650 --> 00:49:31,160
ever met him personally well I worked

966
00:49:35,170 --> 00:49:32,660
for him for a couple of years when I

967
00:49:38,099 --> 00:49:35,180
first came to Las Vegas but did you meet

968
00:49:41,319 --> 00:49:38,109
him oh yes oh okay all right thank you

969
00:49:43,329 --> 00:49:41,329
okay because so many people mention him

970
00:49:48,849 --> 00:49:43,339
but then they say no I've never met him

971
00:49:51,309 --> 00:49:48,859
so I was glad to know he does exist on a

972
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:51,319
daily basis okay all right I was there

973
00:50:00,099 --> 00:49:54,170
yeah so he's done some very interesting

974
00:50:02,980 --> 00:50:00,109
research I think he seems to have almost

975
00:50:05,230 --> 00:50:02,990
two interest one financial and one pure

976
00:50:07,299 --> 00:50:05,240
research is that about the way you'd sum

977
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:07,309
it up what he started off with the

978
00:50:14,799 --> 00:50:11,690
financial you know hotels motel right he

979
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:14,809
would buy up either you know some land

980
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:18,170
or a motel hotel that was going under

981
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:20,089
and put up some throw some money at it

982
00:50:27,519 --> 00:50:23,690
and gradually over the years built up

983
00:50:31,870 --> 00:50:27,529
quite an investment in hotels and motels

984
00:50:34,359 --> 00:50:31,880
over several states so that gave him

985
00:50:36,249 --> 00:50:34,369
resources then to go off and do

986
00:50:38,980 --> 00:50:36,259
something that he really enjoyed which

987
00:50:41,140 --> 00:50:38,990
was the first of all it was the UFO

988
00:50:43,779 --> 00:50:41,150
field he was very interested in now he's

989
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:43,789
gone into aerospace and I'm so happy for

990
00:50:49,809 --> 00:50:46,640
him that he's really found a niche where

991
00:50:50,829 --> 00:50:49,819
he can really apply all of his funding

992
00:50:53,140 --> 00:50:50,839
and his interest

993
00:50:56,289 --> 00:50:53,150
quite a fascinating gentleman he

994
00:51:00,059 --> 00:50:56,299
was involved with MUFON for a while and

995
00:51:03,130 --> 00:51:00,069
he supplied the star team with a lot of

996
00:51:05,529 --> 00:51:03,140
interesting and good equipment I would

997
00:51:08,980 --> 00:51:05,539
dearly love to get my hands on a pair of

998
00:51:11,950 --> 00:51:08,990
those fifth-generation night-vision

999
00:51:16,750 --> 00:51:11,960
goggles and binoculars but I think

1000
00:51:18,339 --> 00:51:16,760
they're out of my league he's been

1001
00:51:21,940 --> 00:51:18,349
involved with many groups and

1002
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:21,950
organizations seeing as though he's very

1003
00:51:28,690 --> 00:51:26,210
mercurial you know and he's very much a

1004
00:51:32,380 --> 00:51:28,700
man of his own ideas and his own timing

1005
00:51:34,450 --> 00:51:32,390
and if it doesn't match you know then

1006
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:34,460
he's off on to something else so it's

1007
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:36,170
why I said I'm very glad now that he's

1008
00:51:41,230 --> 00:51:38,690
found something that really captures all

1009
00:51:45,430 --> 00:51:41,240
his interest have you been involved

1010
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:45,440
recently in any remote viewing projects

1011
00:51:51,220 --> 00:51:48,170
the of a commercial sort or a police

1012
00:51:53,730 --> 00:51:51,230
matter sort recently oh all the time I

1013
00:51:58,359 --> 00:51:53,740
never know what's coming across my desk

1014
00:52:01,059 --> 00:51:58,369
yeah up until 2012 I was working mainly

1015
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:01,069
for one businessman I worked with him

1016
00:52:07,210 --> 00:52:04,490
for nine years and we did a lot of

1017
00:52:09,819 --> 00:52:07,220
business type remote viewing including

1018
00:52:12,339 --> 00:52:09,829
going off target sometimes I'm doing

1019
00:52:18,099 --> 00:52:12,349
like the alien interviews and some work

1020
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:18,109
on the Egyptian historical artifact but

1021
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:21,770
then you know I'm currently writing up a

1022
00:52:27,250 --> 00:52:24,170
book 30 years of remote viewing cases

1023
00:52:30,190 --> 00:52:27,260
cool and I'm hired all the time for

1024
00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:30,200
different projects ranging from looking

1025
00:52:33,309 --> 00:52:31,910
yeah by physicists working with

1026
00:52:36,309 --> 00:52:33,319
physicists looking at subatomic

1027
00:52:39,339 --> 00:52:36,319
particles all the way up to the rings of

1028
00:52:41,049 --> 00:52:39,349
Saturn and exhale biology stuff

1029
00:52:42,910 --> 00:52:41,059
yes that's fascinating really

1030
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:42,920
fascinating how when you mentioned the

1031
00:52:48,250 --> 00:52:44,960
Egyptian stuff were you working with

1032
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:48,260
Stephen Schwartz no no these are some

1033
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:50,210
questions that my client had about the

1034
00:52:56,740 --> 00:52:53,450
Sphinx ah and the history of the Sphinx

1035
00:52:58,690 --> 00:52:56,750
and how did it come about and what were

1036
00:53:03,099 --> 00:52:58,700
discovered from looking back with remote

1037
00:53:06,460 --> 00:53:03,109
viewing was that the original idea was

1038
00:53:08,530 --> 00:53:06,470
of lions that lived in the desert

1039
00:53:10,810 --> 00:53:08,540
and they would sit upon these what

1040
00:53:12,490 --> 00:53:10,820
record cop geez I think I'm not quite

1041
00:53:16,570 --> 00:53:12,500
sure how they're pronounced rocky

1042
00:53:19,180 --> 00:53:16,580
outcrops in Hazzard and they became data

1043
00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:19,190
deified you know they were worshipped

1044
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:23,200
and because they were very dangerous and

1045
00:53:27,790 --> 00:53:25,280
you know they had to be treated with

1046
00:53:31,390 --> 00:53:27,800
respect and from that then the whole

1047
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:31,400
lineage of sphinxes came came down to

1048
00:53:37,630 --> 00:53:34,490
carving of them and that there are many

1049
00:53:39,370 --> 00:53:37,640
singers out there in the desert that

1050
00:53:41,830 --> 00:53:39,380
have been covered up by sand and they

1051
00:53:44,349 --> 00:53:41,840
will eventually be uncovered so I'm just

1052
00:53:46,540 --> 00:53:44,359
waiting to hear the news wow that's

1053
00:53:49,390 --> 00:53:46,550
that's very exciting have you been to

1054
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:49,400
Egypt I haven't I would love to one day

1055
00:53:52,930 --> 00:53:51,170
it's a wonderful place it was a

1056
00:53:55,630 --> 00:53:52,940
wonderful place I don't think I'd be

1057
00:53:57,849 --> 00:53:55,640
going back in this timeframe but I've

1058
00:54:00,550 --> 00:53:57,859
been there quite a few times and have

1059
00:54:02,290 --> 00:54:00,560
been to the antiquities and because I go

1060
00:54:05,349 --> 00:54:02,300
in search of the energy of ancient

1061
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:05,359
places you know so yeah that was part of

1062
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:09,050
all of that I have another question for

1063
00:54:14,310 --> 00:54:10,330
you

1064
00:54:18,510 --> 00:54:14,320
remote viewing versus remote influencing

1065
00:54:21,460 --> 00:54:18,520
what's your take on remote influencing

1066
00:54:24,060 --> 00:54:21,470
they're two sides of the same coin the

1067
00:54:27,609 --> 00:54:24,070
remote influence remote viewing is

1068
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:27,619
receiving information remote influence

1069
00:54:33,490 --> 00:54:29,690
or remote action is putting out

1070
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:33,500
information and energy and we do it all

1071
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:35,450
the time if we're you know putting out

1072
00:54:40,410 --> 00:54:37,970
proba for healing we socal pray for you

1073
00:54:43,690 --> 00:54:40,420
or send you energy you're doing remote

1074
00:54:45,970 --> 00:54:43,700
energy remote action or remote influence

1075
00:54:49,660 --> 00:54:45,980
and it has its negative side and its

1076
00:54:54,910 --> 00:54:49,670
positive side the positive side is for

1077
00:54:57,579 --> 00:54:54,920
healing for intention for you know all

1078
00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:57,589
the positive stuff or the light but

1079
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:01,520
there is a dark side to it and that is

1080
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:04,490
little little known about it but you

1081
00:55:12,130 --> 00:55:08,210
know with hexes and hoodoo and people

1082
00:55:13,720 --> 00:55:12,140
using it for negative intent so with

1083
00:55:18,370 --> 00:55:13,730
everything there's a positive and

1084
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:18,380
negative okay just to get back to

1085
00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:19,890
antiquities again

1086
00:55:25,210 --> 00:55:22,049
have you ever been asked about Atlantis

1087
00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:25,220
that's sort of a old interest of mine

1088
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:28,079
yep I did quite a bit of viewing on that

1089
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:31,049
for my nine year clients my business

1090
00:55:36,049 --> 00:55:32,730
client one of the ventures that we

1091
00:55:40,700 --> 00:55:36,059
ventured out from business RV for awhile

1092
00:55:45,950 --> 00:55:40,710
and he has me remote view individuals

1093
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:45,960
and also the the location and you know

1094
00:55:52,069 --> 00:55:48,720
their energy you know that project

1095
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:52,079
energy production so I've got all that

1096
00:56:00,140 --> 00:55:54,210
in my files at some point I'll put that

1097
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:00,150
into a book form or a manuscript we had

1098
00:56:07,910 --> 00:56:02,730
a guest on the show once that John

1099
00:56:10,849 --> 00:56:07,920
Spencer I believe and he actually he

1100
00:56:14,329 --> 00:56:10,859
came about it and uh he was a Civil War

1101
00:56:17,210 --> 00:56:14,339
buff and a man with some money and sent

1102
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:17,220
and started to photograph the eastern

1103
00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:19,440
seaboard the United States to find old

1104
00:56:25,099 --> 00:56:22,079
Civil War battlefields and and said

1105
00:56:27,789 --> 00:56:25,109
instead found a series of piers and

1106
00:56:30,529 --> 00:56:27,799
harbors all along the eastern seaboard

1107
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:30,539
and then he followed those through and

1108
00:56:35,450 --> 00:56:32,640
without make just making a long story

1109
00:56:39,049 --> 00:56:35,460
short I sort of found similar things on

1110
00:56:40,670 --> 00:56:39,059
the western seaboard of Europe and felt

1111
00:56:43,759 --> 00:56:40,680
that perhaps in between was a

1112
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:43,769
centralized civilization seafaring

1113
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:45,930
civilization that he thought may have

1114
00:56:53,029 --> 00:56:47,970
been Atlantis so I was wondering if you

1115
00:56:55,279 --> 00:56:53,039
would agree with it I don't know I did

1116
00:56:58,249 --> 00:56:55,289
do some fad tried to produce a

1117
00:57:00,740 --> 00:56:58,259
fact-finding for my client and ten

1118
00:57:04,579 --> 00:57:00,750
pointed a half-dozen areas around the

1119
00:57:06,710 --> 00:57:04,589
the earth that people speculated you

1120
00:57:09,559 --> 00:57:06,720
know where that lantus was and it's

1121
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:09,569
really speculation at this point yeah

1122
00:57:16,569 --> 00:57:13,440
and what's interesting is all the P all

1123
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:16,579
the ancient groups up and down the

1124
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:21,210
European seaboard there on the west you

1125
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:24,000
got the count they Celts and Scot

1126
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:25,650
you know the Gallic up and Scotland the

1127
00:57:34,010 --> 00:57:29,970
Celts and Wales the the Basque the

1128
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:34,020
Cornish people all spoke a very soon

1129
00:57:40,970 --> 00:57:36,930
unknown language the rest didn't

1130
00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:40,980
understand and there was a speculation

1131
00:57:49,310 --> 00:57:45,510
that it came from a seafaring people so

1132
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:49,320
there are lots of clumps of locations up

1133
00:57:54,260 --> 00:57:52,290
and down that seaboard that have the

1134
00:57:57,050 --> 00:57:54,270
customs and language and the languages

1135
00:58:01,070 --> 00:57:57,060
are gradually dying out particularly the

1136
00:58:03,230 --> 00:58:01,080
Basque and Cornish but of course the

1137
00:58:09,020 --> 00:58:03,240
Gallic and the Welsh are still pretty

1138
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:09,030
strong the last living speaker of Manx

1139
00:58:14,270 --> 00:58:11,850
died in the 20th century you know the

1140
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:14,280
first the last person who was born

1141
00:58:19,460 --> 00:58:17,730
speaking Manx he died back I don't know

1142
00:58:22,580 --> 00:58:19,470
in the 40s or something like that they

1143
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:22,590
still have some preservation of that

1144
00:58:28,100 --> 00:58:26,010
language but nobody is any longer born

1145
00:58:30,260 --> 00:58:28,110
speaking Manx apparently and I guess

1146
00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:30,270
that's one of the languages isn't it yes

1147
00:58:36,740 --> 00:58:34,110
yeah languages now whether they came

1148
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:36,750
from Atlantis or some other similar

1149
00:58:42,020 --> 00:58:39,450
groups we don't know and and these are

1150
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:42,030
the peoples who have built the stone

1151
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:45,930
circles I've been down the the western

1152
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:53,490
coast of Europe France and well you grew

1153
00:59:00,410 --> 00:58:58,050
up near stonehenge too and i was i I did

1154
00:59:03,050 --> 00:59:00,420
visit there I didn't get any particular

1155
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:03,060
feelings about it though I you know I'm

1156
00:59:08,210 --> 00:59:05,090
sort of a clod when it comes

1157
00:59:09,110 --> 00:59:08,220
thanks I thought yeah looks good but

1158
00:59:10,910 --> 00:59:09,120
that's about it

1159
00:59:18,860 --> 00:59:10,920
I remember the pea soup they were

1160
00:59:22,460 --> 00:59:18,870
selling but I'm sorry go ahead

1161
00:59:26,780 --> 00:59:22,470
know your interpretation on yeah I got

1162
00:59:29,210 --> 00:59:26,790
more feelings from Avebury yeah it's a

1163
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:29,220
kid we need my mum and dad used to take

1164
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:31,530
us out to Stonehenge it was not fenced

1165
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:34,170
in at that time it was just open on the

1166
00:59:39,110 --> 00:59:36,090
plains and we should go and eat jam

1167
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:39,120
sandwiches and tea and have a picnic

1168
00:59:44,780 --> 00:59:42,570
there and play on the stones and you

1169
00:59:46,260 --> 00:59:44,790
know get some tea out from a little tea

1170
00:59:49,770 --> 00:59:46,270
hat that was there

1171
00:59:51,990 --> 00:59:49,780
and so growing up with it there I really

1172
00:59:52,940 --> 00:59:52,000
didn't know the significance of it until

1173
00:59:55,380 --> 00:59:52,950
I was older

1174
00:59:57,810 --> 00:59:55,390
that's marvelous what a marvelous

1175
01:00:01,230 --> 00:59:57,820
childhood I've been over a number of

1176
01:00:04,890 --> 01:00:01,240
times in search of stone circles in and

1177
01:00:08,010 --> 01:00:04,900
a kromm licks and I can't think of in

1178
01:00:11,690 --> 01:00:08,020
the almonds all over the British Isles

1179
01:00:15,270 --> 01:00:11,700
up into Ireland as well and just

1180
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:15,280
wonderful wonderful energy and even have

1181
01:00:20,970 --> 01:00:19,090
taken some photos with you know I I

1182
01:00:24,630 --> 01:00:20,980
don't want to say orbs because they're

1183
01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:24,640
not the typical orbs but light a light

1184
01:00:31,109 --> 01:00:26,710
fluctuations that shouldn't have been

1185
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:31,119
there let's say yes yeah I adore the the

1186
01:00:36,540 --> 01:00:34,090
stone circles I adore them so when you

1187
01:00:39,470 --> 01:00:36,550
sort of did remote viewing about them

1188
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:39,480
did you have any perceptions of ancient

1189
01:00:48,060 --> 01:00:44,010
peoples or anything along those lines

1190
01:00:49,070 --> 01:00:48,070
when viewing of Atlantis no I'm sorry

1191
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:49,080
Stonehenge

1192
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:52,090
I never I really remote viewed

1193
01:00:57,420 --> 01:00:53,650
Stonehenge

1194
01:00:59,400 --> 01:00:57,430
I've had some intuitive insights about

1195
01:01:01,980 --> 01:00:59,410
it that at one time it was a huge

1196
01:01:03,630 --> 01:01:01,990
marketplace uh-huh that people would

1197
01:01:06,450 --> 01:01:03,640
come out you know a couple of times a

1198
01:01:10,590 --> 01:01:06,460
year sort of spring and autumn with with

1199
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:10,600
all their cattle and produce and you

1200
01:01:16,170 --> 01:01:13,330
know salad offs and they've now found

1201
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:16,180
that there's a settlement nearby hmm

1202
01:01:19,950 --> 01:01:17,890
that they uncovered there's a lot of

1203
01:01:23,370 --> 01:01:19,960
excavation going on now but a mile away

1204
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:23,380
from Stonehenge but that's so funny that

1205
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:25,090
you never remote whew that and I've

1206
01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:30,640
never visited the have you been up to

1207
01:01:39,090 --> 01:01:35,710
the Orkneys by chance no but every year

1208
01:01:42,780 --> 01:01:39,100
a couple of years I go up to Loch Lomond

1209
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:42,790
ah and I have some friends there and I

1210
01:01:46,740 --> 01:01:45,250
go and teach and they get some students

1211
01:01:49,260 --> 01:01:46,750
together I go up there and teach remote

1212
01:01:52,740 --> 01:01:49,270
viewing wonderful hide behind their

1213
01:01:55,230 --> 01:01:52,750
house is a hill and it overlooks Loch

1214
01:01:58,020 --> 01:01:55,240
Lomond it's a pond of on the rise of

1215
01:01:58,720 --> 01:01:58,030
land and there's a wonderful big burial

1216
01:02:01,090 --> 01:01:58,730
mound

1217
01:02:04,450 --> 01:02:01,100
and you go further up through the woods

1218
01:02:08,620 --> 01:02:04,460
you get to these ancient ancient burial

1219
01:02:11,650 --> 01:02:08,630
cysts these stone boxes basically in the

1220
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:11,660
ground that are incredibly ancient and I

1221
01:02:18,130 --> 01:02:14,450
get a great feeling from them you know

1222
01:02:21,730 --> 01:02:18,140
the antiquity and mystery well so you've

1223
01:02:26,770 --> 01:02:21,740
had an incredibly interesting varied

1224
01:02:31,270 --> 01:02:26,780
life a progression through the psychic

1225
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:31,280
or it's a few little and and and what is

1226
01:02:35,740 --> 01:02:33,530
what's coming up for Angela Thompson

1227
01:02:40,359 --> 01:02:35,750
Smith oh let's see

1228
01:02:45,070 --> 01:02:40,369
well I'm going up to Canada in May to

1229
01:02:48,490 --> 01:02:45,080
teach in Toronto and going out to

1230
01:02:52,330 --> 01:02:48,500
Arizona later this month to meet up with

1231
01:02:56,650 --> 01:02:52,340
a UFO group a small group that's going

1232
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:56,660
to do some exploration and June we have

1233
01:03:00,910 --> 01:02:58,400
the remote viewing conference the earth

1234
01:03:02,859 --> 01:03:00,920
a conference Oh will you be there yes

1235
01:03:04,810 --> 01:03:02,869
I'm going actually going to be giving a

1236
01:03:08,500 --> 01:03:04,820
presentation well perhaps I'll see you

1237
01:03:11,410 --> 01:03:08,510
there yeah in New Orleans yes yes yes

1238
01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:11,420
I'm going to talk about using remote

1239
01:03:18,790 --> 01:03:13,510
viewing a freaky manatorian work and

1240
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:18,800
talking about a case that's about it but

1241
01:03:24,430 --> 01:03:22,730
I you know my my life is flexible and I

1242
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:24,440
have all sorts of opportunities come

1243
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:27,770
along well that's wonderful and I feel

1244
01:03:33,790 --> 01:03:30,410
that the opportunities do come if you

1245
01:03:35,500 --> 01:03:33,800
visualize them and I try to be careful

1246
01:03:37,590 --> 01:03:35,510
with what I visualize because you can

1247
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:37,600
only take so much on your plate at once

1248
01:03:45,340 --> 01:03:41,650
yeah well when when my nine-year clients

1249
01:03:47,170 --> 01:03:45,350
we finished our contract I had to make a

1250
01:03:49,930 --> 01:03:47,180
decision you know what am I gonna do now

1251
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:49,940
so still getting in other small projects

1252
01:03:53,950 --> 01:03:52,010
and teaching but as I made a decision

1253
01:03:56,980 --> 01:03:53,960
anything comes across my desk

1254
01:04:02,470 --> 01:03:56,990
that's not a moral unethical or illegal

1255
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:02,480
I thank you for taking on this project

1256
01:04:08,470 --> 01:04:06,290
and we're going to say goodbye now but

1257
01:04:09,980 --> 01:04:08,480
we hope that you will join us again

1258
01:04:13,700 --> 01:04:09,990
sometime

1259
01:04:16,340 --> 01:04:13,710
and it's been a pleasure yeah absolutely

1260
01:04:18,740 --> 01:04:16,350
and although I don't Remote View or

1261
01:04:20,270 --> 01:04:18,750
ahold of body I feel I'm quite certain

1262
01:04:22,850 --> 01:04:20,280
and saying we've only touched the

1263
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:22,860
surface of if your your interests and

1264
01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:25,050
your abilities are really fascinating

1265
01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:28,710
life and just incredible abilities thank

1266
01:04:32,570 --> 01:04:30,480
you so much for sharing it with us and

1267
01:04:36,410 --> 01:04:32,580
really appreciate it yes Angela thank

1268
01:04:39,950 --> 01:04:36,420
you very much and hope to see you down

1269
01:04:44,210 --> 01:04:39,960
in Las five not Las Vegas sorrow at New

1270
01:04:45,740 --> 01:04:44,220
Orleans New Orleans this summer thank

1271
01:04:47,510 --> 01:04:45,750
you very much for having me on the show

1272
01:04:49,940 --> 01:04:47,520
and I look forward to meeting you too

1273
01:04:52,370 --> 01:04:49,950
okay and again our guest was Angela

1274
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:52,380
Thompson Smith she is the author of five

1275
01:04:58,220 --> 01:04:55,290
books among them remote perceptions

1276
01:05:00,050 --> 01:04:58,230
Diary of a nun Jefferson Avenue keep

1277
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:00,060
saying that diary of an abduction and

1278
01:05:05,210 --> 01:05:03,090
voices from the cosmos and please get a

1279
01:05:07,790 --> 01:05:05,220
hold of them read them most fascinating

1280
01:05:12,250 --> 01:05:07,800
yeah they are great books thanks again

1281
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:12,260
and thank you we're looking forward to

1282
01:05:18,140 --> 01:05:15,090
some future guests here thank you for

1283
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:18,150
tuning in one of our future guests I

1284
01:05:22,690 --> 01:05:19,650
believe is going to be a

1285
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:22,700
parapsychologist from the University of

1286
01:05:31,430 --> 01:05:28,890
Virginia UVA Roth Ross dunseith who has

1287
01:05:33,890 --> 01:05:31,440
worked with Ian Stevenson and others

1288
01:05:37,940 --> 01:05:33,900
down there he's going to come to us and

1289
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:37,950
speak and we thank you for being with us

1290
01:05:44,270 --> 01:05:40,010
and you know who we haven't heard from

1291
01:05:47,090 --> 01:05:44,280
is our esteemed listeners we really

1292
01:05:49,250 --> 01:05:47,100
would like some feedback oh I do have

1293
01:05:52,670 --> 01:05:49,260
something follow a listener okay okay

1294
01:05:55,700 --> 01:05:52,680
John P Yates okay love Texas would

1295
01:05:58,609 --> 01:05:55,710
really like us to have Stanton Friedman

1296
01:06:01,250 --> 01:05:58,619
on okay and he has a couple of questions

1297
01:06:05,090 --> 01:06:01,260
for Stanton and I did have some

1298
01:06:08,390 --> 01:06:05,100
correspondence recently with the

1299
01:06:10,609 --> 01:06:08,400
esteemed mr. Stanton Friedman and he did

1300
01:06:14,180 --> 01:06:10,619
say he would be happy to come on so

1301
01:06:16,820 --> 01:06:14,190
let's invite uncle Stan on okay a UFO

1302
01:06:19,070 --> 01:06:16,830
show out uncle Stan it's like a day

1303
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:19,080
without sunshine that's right one of my

1304
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:22,170
favorites so he just a great guy yes

1305
01:06:26,660 --> 01:06:24,450
really but really we would like to hear

1306
01:06:28,670 --> 01:06:26,670
from you what do you think about remote

1307
01:06:31,100 --> 01:06:28,680
viewing I mean if you're listening to

1308
01:06:33,470 --> 01:06:31,110
this you have to have some opinions or

1309
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:33,480
perhaps some experiences we'd love to

1310
01:06:59,970 --> 01:06:55,140
welcome to shattered reality with their

1311
01:07:03,029 --> 01:06:59,980
hosts Kate Valentine and furs prepare to